Thanks again for a great con. It was my first EF, and one thing that kinda stuck from the con was the frequent amusing announcements (I think by Somewolf?). I just thought it'd be cool if he could record a sound sample or two as it could work as a ringtone :P
perhaps as a answering machine message :P
EF rules! :D
I second Shep :3
Quote from: SlyCat on 10.09.2006, 23:56:40
It was my first EF, and one thing that kinda stuck from the con was the frequent amusing announcements (I think by Somewolf?). I just thought it'd be cool if he could record a sound sample or two as it could work as a ringtone :P
And your current ringtone is "Crazy Frog", right? ;D
Quote from: owolf on 11.09.2006, 00:28:11
And your current ringtone is "Crazy Frog", right? ;D
Such cheek! I hated that frog. Nah, I just thought it could be an amusing novelty for those in the know :)
Quote from: SlyCat on 10.09.2006, 23:56:40
[...] amusing announcements [...] as a ringtone
good to hear you had fun as well :-)
i'm somehow doomed to be the anouncement-dude since ef9 .. where the 'soundsystem' was my loud voice *G*
anyways
you have to come up with something to make everyfur listen
i got lots of reports telling me that folks were silent listening 'cause they waited for the punchline ...
now where my concept got revealed i need a new one for ef13 ;-)
and i'm still hiding from '2'
even though it wasn't my idea to call for him in a harsh voice to be shot in the courtyard *wildly giggles*
oh btw: so far there are no plans for producing "ef - the ringtone collection(tm)"
me is only available live at cons, come and see ..err: hear
*wag*
just
somewolf
if the theme for EF 13 will be pirates you can call everyone with a loud "YO HO!" ;)
It was my first EF also. I had an amazing time.
There were announcements??? I just kept getting messages from my subconscious
Yesh! The "Attention please, attention please" announcements were just the most geeky fun I had at the con, loved how we all just hushed up to hear em. Great job Somewolf!! *hugs*
At the next EF I will record it :D
You've drawn-out these words so much *gg*
Quote from: Gideon on 11.09.2006, 21:59:05
Yesh! The "Attention please, attention please" announcements were just the most geeky fun I had at the con, loved how we all just hushed up to hear em.
Hmm, you actually liked those? I personally found them rather distracting, to say the least.
Quote from: Schneelocke on 12.09.2006, 12:53:21
Quote from: Gideon on 11.09.2006, 21:59:05
Yesh! The "Attention please, attention please" announcements were just the most geeky fun I had at the con, loved how we all just hushed up to hear em.
Hmm, you actually liked those? I personally found them rather distracting, to say the least.
Distracting you from what you were doing and made you listen to the irresistible hypnotic voice announcing that the Art Show will close in 15 minutes? I think that was the plan ;D
EDIT: Multiple layers of quoting, yay!
Quote from: kshade on 12.09.2006, 12:58:13
Distracting you from what you were doing and made you listen to the irresistible hypnotic voice announcing that the Art Show will close in 15 minutes? I think that was the plan ;D
Distracting me from what I was doing, yes, and making me think "goodness, can't he at least *try* to have a less embarassing accent"... :P
His voice was sort of intimmidating o.o
Quote from: DarkRacoon on 13.09.2006, 00:46:07
His voice was sort of intimmidating o.o
"STOP USING THE CALL BUTTON OR I'LL USE YOUR BUTTON!"
;)
CU
CJ
Quote from: DarkRacoon on 13.09.2006, 00:46:07
His voice was sort of intimmidating o.o
I thought he sounded like a German version of Loyd Grossman :P
Hehe.. we even made fun of him in the pawpet show. In all the rehearsals the North Cothelstone Emergency Line had a more angry voice.. and then, in the main performance... threw me right off my poke role, had to make a comment after that, with everyone backstage staring at me (giving me the LOOK!) for not sticking to the script again *laughs*
> we even made fun of him in the pawpet show
good thing i was somewhere else in the building when this scene was on
just go ahead here and elswhere making fun of me
it all will be noted in your FIA files :-)
just
somewolf
I am proud of my FIA files. So.. just keep writing things down ^.^
There is no FIA ¬.¬
There is! Belive in it :D
The Furry Intelligence Agency would like to point out that ther is no such thing as an FIA. We would further like to note that we unfortunately cannot give any statement on the accuracy of the Wikifur entry (http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/F.I.A.) on this topic.
i didnt think it was amusing. it was more just annoying.
every time you're talking to someone about something important, there came an anouncement 1 minute "attention please" in repeat and then 3 seconds of message.
Just... Annoying.
"why wasn't there any kind of anouncement so i'd know what's going on"
^--- a question every ef about 1 jillion times
> Just... Annoying
yes, this too
what to learn?
you can't do it right!
everyfur is invited to do it right(er) though, please join the team with your ideas and make things better :-)
if someone thinks there were too many anouncements, for let's say the artshow, please complain to the respective manager ... and so on
otherwise ...see above .. you are invited to come up with an idea on how to inform everyfur who may need an information
the not existing fia just isn't that far to implant abn's (attendee brain networkchips) .. .. yet
thanks for your patience and your understanding of the needs of a small group for informations :-P
just
somewolf
and Fairlight: as usual feel free to buy your file entry deletion voucher at herbstcon ;-)
edit: smoothened the wording about the needs of the majority
Who needs the F.I.A. when you have WikiFur collecting detailed information about everyone in the fandom (http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:People)? There are 1750 people articles and counting, including a rather detailed one on somewolf himself (http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/somewolf) . . . ;D
Quote from: GreenReaper on 15.09.2006, 21:48:37
Who needs the F.I.A. when you have WikiFur collecting detailed information about everyone in the fandom (http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:People)? There are 1750 people articles and counting, including a rather detailed one on somewolf himself (http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/somewolf) . . . ;D
Well, who do you think runs WikiFur? Wikia? Come on, that's obviously just a fake company front for the FIA... ;)
Quote from: Schneelocke on 15.09.2006, 21:51:53Well, who do you think runs WikiFur? Wikia? Come on, that's obviously just a fake company front for the FIA... ;)
If it is, that's a concern, as the same people run Wikipedia as well . . . hmm, maybe that explains the extensive entries on the furry fandom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom) and related topics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Furry). They've obviously been monitoring Kage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Conway) during his trips to EF, too!
GreenReaper!
would you please not undermine the FIA efforts in miss-informing the fandom *G*
(didn't you see the strategicly placed link in my profile to spread missinformation?!)
btw: nice you are here, when will YOU attend EF ?
i'm eager to meet you IRL :-)
just
somewolf
Quote from: GreenReaper on 15.09.2006, 21:56:58If it is, that's a concern, as the same people run Wikipedia as well . . . hmm, maybe that explains the extensive entries on the furry fandom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom) and related topics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Furry). They've obviously been monitoring Kage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Conway) during his trips to EF, too!
Not technically the same people, actually... Wikia and the Wikimedia Foundation happen to share a number of members, but they're otherwise completely separate entities. But of course, I have no doubts that the FIA is secretly controlling the latter, too. ;)
Quote from: Schneelocke on 15.09.2006, 22:08:02
Not technically the same people, actually... Wikia and the Wikimedia Foundation happen to share a number of members, but they're otherwise completely separate entities. But of course, I have no doubts that the FIA is secretly controlling the latter, too. ;)
Now who's spoiling the conspiracy? ;)
In truth, they
are separate organizations, but there are several top people involved in both. In fact, there is a discussion about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikia#Financial_conflict_of_interest.3F) that just started at Wikipedia. I spend quite a lot of time with the Wikia staff (they paid for me to present at Wikimania (http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:LP1)), and I happen to know that Wikipedia and Wikia were both started on the very same server, ross.bomis.com (at different times, obviously). If that's not suspicious I don't know what is!
*grin*
Quote from: somewolf
btw: nice you are here, when will YOU attend EF ?
i'm eager to meet you IRL :-)
I should really have dropped by when I lived in the UK, but I didn't know about it. Maybe next year, if I have the time free. Alas, there is not as much holiday here in the US as in Europe!
Quote from: GreenReaper on 15.09.2006, 22:20:40In truth, they are separate organizations, but there are several top people involved in both. In fact, there is a discussion about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikia#Financial_conflict_of_interest.3F) that just started at Wikipedia. I spend quite a lot of time with the Wikia staff (they paid for me to present at Wikimania (http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:LP1)), and I happen to know that Wikipedia and Wikia were both started on the very same server, ross.bomis.com (at different times, obviously). If that's not suspicious I don't know what is! *grin*
Oh? Interesting - I don't remember the absolutely earliest days of Wikipedia (I only did my first edits - that I can still find, at least - at the very end of 2001 and didn't sign up until in May 2003), but wasn't Wikia founded much later, after Wikipedia was already occupying several servers? (It was on three when I started in 2003...)
Of course, I don't actually *know*, but I always was under the impression that Wikia was only started long after Bomis was not directly involved with Wikipedia anymore. :)
can we maybe go back to the topic:
blaming me for conduction those anouncements in this specific matter
and finding a solution on who'll do this ugly job next year
*trying to distract from the fia*
*wag*
just
somewolf
psst! o'wolf could you please do your job and spread some of this 'truth(tm)' again
Quote from: Schneelocke on 15.09.2006, 22:27:46
Quote from: GreenReaper on 15.09.2006, 22:20:40In truth, they are separate organizations, but there are several top people involved in both. In fact, there is a discussion about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikia#Financial_conflict_of_interest.3F) that just started at Wikipedia. I spend quite a lot of time with the Wikia staff (they paid for me to present at Wikimania (http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:LP1)), and I happen to know that Wikipedia and Wikia were both started on the very same server, ross.bomis.com (at different times, obviously). If that's not suspicious I don't know what is! *grin*
Oh? Interesting - I don't remember the absolutely earliest days of Wikipedia (I only did my first edits - that I can still find, at least - at the very end of 2001 and didn't sign up until in May 2003), but wasn't Wikia founded much later, after Wikipedia was already occupying several servers? (It was on three when I started in 2003...)
Of course, I don't actually *know*, but I always was under the impression that Wikia was only started long after Bomis was not directly involved with Wikipedia anymore. :)
Yes, this is the case. It moved off Bomis servers after it started getting significant funding. Wikia was initially just the name of Jimbo's company that created Wikiasari, a "user-directed search" project, something like a directory. That project never really got going (like Nupedia). In late 2004 they started Wikicities instead, once it became clear that Wikipedia could not fulfill the needs of all wiki users. I joined on Christmas 2004, about a month after they started their first wikis, and have been involved since then. Earlier this year Wikicities became Wikia instead, as people got confused as to whether it was wikis
about cities.
Hehe, sorry somewolf . . . I should get going now, I have work to do. ;)
Quote from: somewolf on 15.09.2006, 22:34:20
can we maybe go back to the topic:
blaming me for conduction those anouncements in this specific matter
and finding a solution on who'll do this ugly job next year
OK... sorry. We kinda got sidetracked here, I guess. :) That being said, the only thing I'd personally say should be changed (IMO; YMMV) would be that the announcements are taking too long. Something like "attention please, the art show's gonna close in 15 minutes! I repeat, the art show is going to close in 15 minutes!" shouldn't take more than 20 seconds or so (a number I just made up, admittedly, but you'll catch my drift); at EF12, the announcements always seemed to draw out forever. :P
That, and the accent... it's OK if you've just got one, of course, but it very much sounded like it was intentional this year. ;)
Well I liked somewolf's announcements, though I'd have to agree on the speed issue.
Having said that, I seem to remember reading that "best practice" for doing PAs is to speak around 30% slower than you normally would. For an event like Eurofurence, I would say that doing so is particularly important, given that most of the attendees don't have English as their first language.
Cheers,
Southie
Quote from: somewolf on 11.09.2006, 00:35:17
you have to come up with something to make everyfur listen
unfortunately it took sometimes about 40 seconds until all that "Attention please" was over.
so most of the people already stopped listening when the actual anouncement was finally spoken.
i'd like to let everyone know that i won't do any anouncements anymore at ef
i just don't like being critizised for this since it wasn't my choice to do this job in the first time
and of course i want to give everone else the chance to do this better than i did
yes it sucks
it's always the same ... get lost or do a better service for the ones who needed the anouncements :-)
do it better ... i'm waiting
just
somewolf
Quote from: somewolf on 04.01.2007, 19:09:41
it's always the same ... get lost or do a better service for the ones who needed the anouncements
do it better ... i'm waiting
THATS the reason why i wont do ANY job at EF any more :)
been through it. got the t-shirt.
Then you obviously didn't do a better job :)
Quote from: somewolf on 04.01.2007, 19:09:41
i just don't like being critizised for this
If that's how you feel, it may indeed be better if you don't do the announcements anymore. I mean... everyone really appreciates the time and energy you put into helping out at the con (I do, at least), but being able to deal with the fact that people may have suggestions for changes and improvements seems like a rather crucial thing to me, too. It's not only unrealistic to expect people to keep quiet all the time and say that everything's perfect even though they have criticisms, it also will make it impossible to actually improve things by addressing concerns (one way or another). :P
Quote from: Eisfuchs on 05.01.2007, 12:56:52
Then you obviously didn't do a better job :)
well, mostly because if someone does something, he is told by EVERYONE that he is a looser and did the worse job ever.
then you see someone else doing that job, also quite good and he is also told that he did the worse job ever....
doesnt matter what was done
doesnt matter who said it.
fact is, whatever you do, someone expects something else but still cant tell you WHAT you did wrong.
and whats even worse is when someone tells you that you did something wrong that wasnt even your job or noone told you that you should do it.
But it doesnt matter if someone told you to do it or not. it wasnt done, its your fault and so youre incompetent.
Strangely I did never hear that myself, but, it might be that nobody noticed how badly I did my jobs, including those I was never supposed to do :P
or that noone dares to criticize the great and only 'Eisfuchs' :P
naaw.. i think youre doing a great job :)
but i can't talk about experiences with you since i've never been responsible for your doings :)
Quote from: Lions_ on 05.01.2007, 12:48:48
THATS the reason why i wont do ANY job at EF any more :)
been through it. got the t-shirt.
I wasn't going to comment in this thread, but this remark offends me. To clarify this to everyone who reads this: Lions doesn't do "any jobs" at EF any more, because I clearly told him quite a while ago that his service is no longer required in a responsibile position. Lions, you're welcome to visit Eurofurence as a guest, maybe help out as a gopher, and I don't hold any bad grudges against you. Please just don't go around, and talk like you do, because if you don't receive any thankful comments, that's not caused by anything but your own behaviour, even though you might not see it that way.
(That's all I'm going to say, it's already way too personal, but I didn't see any way to clear this up without getting as specific as I did, sorry.)
Case closed.